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Daily 49er: Daily 49er - Our View- Immigration change can be good and bad

  • LatinAmerican78 · 1 month ago
    Finally someone who brings common sense to the table, instead of the usual rethoric this issue causes. I would like to thank the staff of Daily 49er, because it sounds (to me) that they only hire true patriots. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. America is GREAT, lets make it greater by having an open mind and open our ears to solutions to this hot issue. Nobody wants open borders but lets keep our values as Americans alive by not separating families and hurting them as well as the economy.
  • foreignLatinAmerican · 1 month ago
    Ok...I am a foreign student who has been here for quite some years, and it has not been easy to get to where I am right now. A year ago I was finally able to enroll to CSULB and so far the experience has been enriching. I come from a Latin Country which I won't specify because I think it is out of the question. After all, I am a legal immigrant. I am very interested in all these topics because my life has changed in ways I did not imagine before coming here to the United States. My question is as follows. What do you people think about those who are here already legally who want to keep pursuing their dreams to get hopefully a job and a life here at the United States? I have learned so much history from this country and the world by the many classes I have taken and also from independent research. I want to find a commonality in human life in this planet and help to find solutions to this problem. What are we suppose to do as people? Lets think about it because it is human lives what we are talking about. We are not immortals and I think that these issues should be addressed very quickly. We all should be living in a world free from everything that is bad because we do not live forever, right? Or am I wrong? Maybe I think I am the only mortal in this world.
  • openmindedamerican · 1 month ago
    You are right on the money!!!!!! All we can do is hope that this same wisdon befalls the right people.
  • Halibut · 1 month ago
    OK. So you have made the argument on the side of the illegal alien who want's to become legal. Today we give amnesty to that woman who came across the border and had her child here making him/her a US cirizen. What about tomorrow? Are we going to provide the same accomidation to the illegal who has her child here tomorrow? Next week? Next year? How do you propose we prevent this from happeneing over and over again?
  • Zee · 1 month ago
    Border control. Not a some stupid fence but, legitimate border control. Think of the people already here as "grandfathered".
  • mortygwhiz · 1 month ago
    Great propaganda technique in defining patriotism to suit your purpose.
  • Zee · 1 month ago
    Propaganda? Hardly. Its simply a poke at people who hide "simplistic understanding" behind patriotism.
  • NewToLB · 1 month ago
    Beyond discussing the issue without ideology what kind of suggestions do you have? This is how I read your view; 1) Enforcing current border control laws is bad, 2) Throwing open the borders is bad, 3) Enforcing “smarter border enforcement” is good, you don’t think people should be allowed to violate our country’s laws. Obviously, you think our present laws are bad. What kind of new legislation do you suggest and on exactly what reality it is based?
  • Zee · 1 month ago
    The reality we live in is that there are 12 million undocumented immigrants living in our country. Most of these people neither harm us nor hurt us per say. So, simply tossing them out would be immoral and inhumane and thus unamerican.

    We as nation must focus on preserving our identity, remembering that we are a nation of immigrants. This identity which is based on the principles our forefathers laid out and accented by the millions of immigrants who have crossed our border is best preserved by allowing immigration on OUR terms. That means legitimate border control and the assimilation of many of the 12 million undocumented immigrants in our country today.

    Let us deal with the reality of our situation, humanely and fix this problem for future generations.

    I applaud your diplomatic demeanor and welcome you to CSULB.
  • Zeke · 1 month ago
    Most of these people never harm or hurt us? Boy are you really stupid! Physically most do not harm us although MANY do. Get on the internet and read the news of SD County everyday. This will open your eyes and monetarilly ALL of them harm us you moron.
  • Conservative One · 1 month ago
    Truly patriotic?

    So, if someone disagrees with you then they're just unpatriotic? THAT'S THE ATTACK GEORGE W. BUSH USED WHEN PASSING HIS PATRIOT ACTS.

    The opinions desk at the Daily 49er really showed their lack of consistency in this article since they supposedly were against the Patriot Acts. My goodness, do you guys even think before you write your opinion pieces?

    Stay in school and learn something before you write.
  • Zeke · 1 month ago
    Exactly, a bunch of hypocritical, uneducated people pushing their OWN races agenda. I would love to start seeing 3 large ships of African American refugees coming ashore in Mexico everyday. What do you think their government and people would do? They wouldn't be 1/10 as hospitable and caring as America, yet these people will always want more and frankly I'm getting sick of them!
  • passoutb4wetossu · 1 month ago
    Hey Zeke, if you're so tired of it, jump on a boat back to Europe and be done with it; that is unless you're Euro trash ass is indigenous to this land.
  • John Ershwiller · 1 month ago
    I agree with some of the points made in this article, but I have a few problems with the "path to citizenship" claims.

    I have a close friend from Japan who came here many years ago to earn her degree. She is on a student visa, and as an international student she has to pay out of state tuition, which is currently about $15,000 a year for schools in the CSU system. Meanwhile, those who came to this country illegally can take advantage of in-state tuition rates.

    As far as I know, most of the legislation that has been introduced, such as the DREAM act, does not include provisions for people like this. How is it fair that someone who followed all the rules is punished while someone who broke the rules is rewarded? I'm not necessarily against the goals of the DREAM act – anyone who serves in the US military for example deserves citizenship in my eyes, but the current sentiment seems to ignore legal immigrants in favor of illegal immigrants.
  • Jason · 1 month ago
    You're right! These people want the rules to apply to:

    People who come here illegally
    people who are from Latino descent
    people who are poor
    people who have no education
    people who have children without means of supporting them.

    The writers of this school paper and these articles are clearly racist with their own aganda of pushing their own race at the expense of others. Time to report them as the racist they really are.

    The soldiers who all fought in the wars of long ago and died for this country would have never even fought if they knew that it would eventually turn out like this today. I would love to see how one of these libs responds to your post John Ershwiller.
  • La Raza · 1 month ago
    Aula, you're like a broken frickin' record. By writing, "Time to report them as the racist they really are" you just showed that you are "mary" who wrote on the other immigration article. You don't know how to use plurals "them as the racist" and you can't spell your ass out of a traffic jam on a sidewalk. If you're such a goddamn patriot, why don't you enlist and go to Afghanistan? "People who are poor, people who have no education, people who are from Latino 'descent'? You are the most bigoted skateboarder rolling on this campus you dumb ass. Buy a dictionary and actually attend classes while you're at CSULB. We're as sick of you as CSU Northridge was when they chased you off for targeting Latinos. It's time to do the same at The Beach, you tiny minded fool. Go cry to Jim Gilchrist, you supremacist bastard. We don't want you here sucking the air out of our education.
  • passoutb4wetossu · 1 month ago
    Let me clarify: Those who 'came' to this country 'illegally' were actually brought here 'illegally' by their parents. If you study AB 540, the rules are that they have to finish three years (and graduate) at a California high school, something that no 'illegal' adult can do because of their age. THEY FOLLOWED ALL THE RULES. THEY WERE BROUGHT HERE WITH NO KNOWLEDGE OF THEIR OWN, COMPLETED THE REQUIREMENTS. And to clarify 'illegal' is to be convicted of a crime. This is a catchword codified to make the uninformed complicit in demonizing those who have not yet been afforded the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America. Read the Fourteenth and educate yourself before you are deemed 'illegal' for littering. I saw you toss that piece of paper out of your BMW window, which by your standards, makes you 'illegal.' Open a book and actually read it.
  • Zee · 1 month ago
    You're right. This is the moral dilemma we struggle with as Americans. And, this why the immigration issue is so heated. However, this dilemma is produced because our current system is not optimal. We need reform. Like the article states 'change' or reform can be good or bad. I believe addressing the issue you bring to hand would be 'good' reform.

    We're not here to push a liberal or conservative agenda. This is the kind of thinking that puts our country in legislative deadlock. Let us tackle these issues not on the balance of ideology but on that of morality and justice. The people here, whether brown, black, white, or purple are here. Let's move on and get smarter about our border control.
  • Brittanicus · 1 month ago
    Has anybody thought deeply about the consequences of another illegal immigrant amnesty? Let's forget for the moment that suddenly 20 to 30 million people are going to be legalized? That Sanctuary states like California, New Mexico have been financially ridden hard into the ground, because illegal workers and their families are feeding at a gold mine at the taxpayer expense. Let’s not mention that since the 1986 Simpson/Mazzoli bill, those made legal, was able to bring into the United States their extended family members. That although they signed an affidavit to support those, many ended up at the taxpayer’s expense. So let's ignore the expenditures to educate, free health care treatment and all the rest of hidden costs of subsidizing a large portion of the US population. The fact that the businesses that draw them here, from every corner of the world--PAYS NOTHING TOWARDS THEIR UPKEEP. IT'S FREE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES FOR PARIAH BUSINESS, BETTER KNOWN AS CORPORATE WELFARE? Every one of the Democratic leadership have used their influence to weaken E-Verify, county police fed program 287 (g) and ICE raids on businesses.

    So president Obama bypasses the masses the hard pressed American, who have entreated him--NO BLANKET AMNESTY! No path to citizenship! So the millions already here get a free ride to your pensions, social security, public option health care welfare. Who in the world is going to pay for all these legalized individual, followed by the onslaught of millions more looking for free health care? NOW HERE COMES THE FIRESTORM! Have we taken leave of our senses, to think for one moment that another amnesty which is in the works? That a single layer fence is going to hold back millions upon millions more people will--COME? This will not be small meandering lines of illegal aliens, crossing the border during the hours of darkness? This is going to be an unimaginably rush at a defenseless 9.000 border patrol agents, that is--Expected?--to hold at bay those who reach our border? Not even the National Guard and regular GI's could stop the wave upon wave? They will sweep in from El-Salvador, Columbia, Guatemala, Peru, Chile and of course Mexico. They will arrive from Canada, Ireland, Poland and Romania by plane clutching a tourist visa.

    Every corner of the world will hear the resounding trumpet call of Osama’s AMNESTY. Chinese immigrants with tourist visas will fly into Mexico City and perhaps terrorists smuggled in by M 13 gang members? Not just the poor, but the sick, mentally handicapped along with criminals, absconding from the arm of the law across this planet. NOW THE MOST URGENT QUESTION IS? WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR ALL THIS? We are already swallowing the massive funding for Iraq and Afghanistan. We cannot even find jobs for hapless 15 million American workers, who (if true) are joining day-laborers at Home Depot, Walmart, and Lowe's parking lots? So who is going to house, feed and pay-out--more strained US taxpayer money? Perhaps we should send families of illegal aliens to squat in Sen. Harry Reid's gated home in Nevada. Send another crowd to live in House Speakers Nancy Pelosi's grape plantations in Central California. How about Chuck Schumer, HS Chief Janet Napolitano, Joe Biden, Diane Feinstein, Gil Cedillo leaving their house key under the mat, for some large family from Indonesia, India to find?

    Let's give them free bus fare to each and every politician with a lousy immigration grading, such as Representative Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) or the whole Sacramento Liberal Marxist assembly, who have sold bona-fide legal Angelino’s into state insolvency? Why not have them live-in at every ACLU office and their communist lawyers so they could feed them. Every pro-illegal immigrant Chamber of Commerce member could open a spare room and settle some family members, until more brothers and sisters could be sponsored and join them. The Catholic Church and other religious groups could welcome them at the church doors and distribute money from the plate? The minority of Evangelicals churches could open up the rectory, accommodating hundreds of cots from the tired and poverty stricken. All the anti-sovereignty lawmakers should have plenty of room in their Virginia mansions, their custom ranches for large numbers of impoverished families. Even the President has that large White structure--could exhibit some kindness to homeless families and FEMA could establish a tent city in the grounds? Any of the House and Senate who compromised illegal immigration enforcement, should announce their address for resettlement of people who just run the gauntlet at the under funded border fence.


    Let's face it these people who call us names such as xenophobes bigots and worse, adding ugly cuss words to their vocabulary should also open their doors to anybody who enters America illegally. Microsoft multi-billionaire Bill Gates and the thousands of businesses that don't incur a darn cent should bring these family members together in their giant homes. Corporate owners who have colluded with State governors, Mayors, Judges and other lower echelon officials, should participate with a welcome mat. Perhaps American workers should obtain a hard copy list of every unpatriotic American and give illegal matriarch a page of addresses for their extended illegal families? We have San Francisco’s mayor Galvin Newsom and Los Angeles Antonio R.Villaraigosa and all the other--SANCTUARY CITIES AND STATES who have completely ignore federal laws, can also give refuge in their abodes to incorrigible
    gang members who have killed without conscience, illiterate drunk laborers who have slaughtered families on our streets, because they could comprehend English warning signs.


    Then just picture the traffic chaos in every corner of America, unless you live in an isolated ranch in the Mohave Desert, in California. We think we have road rage now, but give it a few weeks after unfettered AMNESTY. I even have a better idea. Open America’s doors completely? No Ellis Island, Galveston Island. No documents, no inspections. NO NOTHING. Give everybody a bus ticket of their choosing, to where they wish to go? See how long the open border zealots put up with that progressive rush to overpopulation. IF you have changes of heart give a tongue-lashing to your legislators at 202-224-3121 in Washington. Learn the financial services in billions of dollars to foreign nationals at NUMBERSUSA,. Hidden corruption that has finally been uncovered, at JUDICIAL WATCH? What the US Census has to say about the POPULATION GROWTH in the future of our children at CAPSWEB? Our population will escalate from 255 million to 383 million by the year to 2050? The next 100 million will suffocate our ability to maintain water, energy, food, communication, infrastructure and a balanced environment.
  • La Raza · 1 month ago
    Short response, you are clearly a racist xenophobe. Why don't you vote to build a 200 foot wall at the northern border where the real threat to national security exists? Because THEY are mostly white illegal immigrants, which makes them SAFE. F-U chump.
  • passoutb4wetossu · 1 month ago
    Your entire argument is not against immigration, moron. It's against immigration by people with brown skin from the south. But you don't want to be counted as a racist or white supremacist? Funny Brittanicus (nice Euro white trash name, by the way).
  • Obama · 1 month ago
    Bravo Brittanicus. I elect you EL PRESIDENTE!!!
  • stopThisNonsense · 1 month ago
    I want to find a commonality in human life in this planet and help to find solutions to this problem. What are we suppose to do as people? Lets think about it because it is human lives what we are talking about. We are not immortals and I think that these issues should be addressed very quickly. We all should be living in a world free from everything that is bad because we do not live forever, right? Or am I wrong? Maybe I think I am the only mortal in this world.